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Croom vs. WTA
« on: January 02, 2008, 01:35:47 PM »
Agree or disagree: Riding 30 miles at Croom is like riding 40 at WTA (Flatwoods, Morris Bridge/Trout Creek)?

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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2008, 11:43:52 PM »
I agree to disagree, Croom is an easier ride to me when the is no sand. but if it resembles a beach out there, then yeah it's harder.
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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2008, 08:52:44 AM »
I have never been to Croom but I will be riding the 50 mile challenge on Feb 2nd. All I keep hearing about Croom is "Beach Blanket Bingo Baby" ;D so hopefully we will get some rain the day before to compact things for us :)

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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2008, 08:58:01 AM »
Agree or disagree: Riding 30 miles at Croom is like riding 40 at WTA (Flatwoods, Morris Bridge/Trout Creek)?

Disagree.  Both systems have their uniqueness of trails. 30 miles at Croom is a semi-tough to tough task depending on the conditions and hard/easy options.  40 at WT means 3 laps around the place and having to hit some rooty pig torn up trails multiple times.  That makes for a tough challenge that you don't have at Croom.  Luckily our choices for mountain bike trails all are different and therefore present different challenges.

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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2008, 09:08:22 AM »
I think Garry hit it dead on. Each is unique with it's own characteristics. Also, each rider has his or her own special types of riding that they excell on, making certain trails more acceptable to them. This thread sortta resembles a political debate theme. ;)
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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2008, 09:45:48 AM »
I agree with Gary that each trail system has unique challenges.  However, I did 35 miles at Croom on 12/20 after two weeks of no riding and battling the flu.  It took me just over 4 hours and I had over 2600 ft uphill.  I then rode 25 miles (one lap of the wt50) on 1/1 and it took me 2.5 hrs with only 1100 ft of uphill. 

Doing 50 at WT will be just under 6 hrs and only 2200 ft of climbing.  Yes there are more challenging roots and pig holes to keep you on your toes, but as far as climbing, there is very little at WT then at Croom.  There is also less sand at WT.  So I would say for me, it is as much effort to do 35 at Croom then doing 50 at WT.  (that is 35 at Croom!)  I will even say 35 at Croom is also close to doing the Santos Epic.  Croom 50 would require way more effort of me then the Santos Epic+ (50).  Oh, I did do all the hard options at Croom.

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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2008, 10:25:21 AM »
sand :'(

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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2008, 10:45:45 AM »
Agree or disagree: Riding 30 miles at Croom is like riding 40 at WTA (Flatwoods, Morris Bridge/Trout Creek)?

Disagree.  Both systems have their uniqueness of trails. 30 miles at Croom is a semi-tough to tough task depending on the conditions and hard/easy options.  40 at WT means 3 laps around the place and having to hit some rooty pig torn up trails multiple times.  That makes for a tough challenge that you don't have at Croom.  Luckily our choices for mountain bike trails all are different and therefore present different challenges.

Agree, on Garry, on WT it depends what the hogs were laying out the night before.
I need Kevin Sheridan to show me "the line" in Panther and whatever "rhythm" he mentioned before.

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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2008, 10:52:27 AM »
I'd like to know that also. I thought it was just keep a steady pace and lift the bars as needed.
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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2008, 07:12:08 PM »
I'd like to know that also. I thought it was just keep a steady pace and lift the bars as needed.

There is a line to take through there.  It takes more than a few times riding it to figure it out it seems.  :-/  Basically picking a line that runs alongside some of the roots instead of directly over them works for the most part.  Subject to change after a good rain, and a few hogs at work!  Also basic mountain biking skills of being light on your bike.  Panther, like Heart Break is one of those trails where to catch it smoothly(??) you have to rely on all of your skills in succession.

Could be Kev sees it different.  Would like to read his thoughts.

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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2008, 07:13:40 PM »
sand :'(

Don't be afraid of a little sand Bunny.  Embrace it; conquer it, and it will be your friend.  :-)

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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2008, 08:36:11 PM »
sand :'(

Don't be afraid of a little sand Bunny.  Embrace it; conquer it, and it will be your friend.  :-)


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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2008, 07:17:12 AM »
No worries Bunny.  We have something waiting for you after CROOM 50:



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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2008, 07:24:45 AM »
LMAO!!!
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Re: Croom vs. WTA
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2008, 07:28:04 AM »
That's some funny crap Marcel. ;D
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