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WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« on: February 14, 2008, 08:51:11 AM »
Anyone ever run these tires? I ordered a set based on extremely high reccomendations on MTBR.com (4.89 rating-all star for 2007). I have also read some other reviews and people said they were terrible. I bought them as a comparison to the Panaracer Fire XC pro's I run now. I am having a real hard time getting used to the red bead on the Fire xc's. With my wheels, it shows more than you think. I know that sounds stupid, but I think most of us care (at least a little) what our bikes look like. I'm not saying that I'm swapping out the Fire xc's for good (they are BAD AZZ tires) I just want to try out the MotoRaptors to see if they perform as well- they look better to me. I'm trying not to care about the looks because the Fire xc's perform so well and if I can't find a better performing tire that is all black-I will definatley be leaving them on. I just think that a black wheel and black tire look good together. I wish Panaracer would make thier "all black" version of the Fire XC Pro actually ALL BLACK. I'm not a big fan of red anyway, and my bike is starting to have a lot more red on it than I had planned-it just seems to be happening that way. Anyway, any opinions on the MotoRaptor 2.14 race would be great. Thanks!
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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 12:14:24 PM »
From the looks of the Panaracer all black version I looked at last night at Jenson it seems to be all black, not like the cheap knockoff from Price Point.(I am using the knockoffs by the way and I like them so no telling how much I'll like the real ones when my current ones wear out!)
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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 01:01:20 PM »
They (the real ones) have a bright red bead where the tire meets the wheel. The bead shows a lot more on some wheels than others. My wheels are one of those wheels. All of the "real" Fire XC pro's have a red bead regardless of the sidewall color. I just think the all black version should be all black-that would be the reason for buying the all black version-because you don't want the loud colored versions of the tire.
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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 01:27:15 PM »
You cant buy the knockoff's with a black sidewall. They all have a wide stripe. Red, Blue, or Yellow.




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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 08:04:16 PM »
Yes I know the knockoffs all have the wide colored strip. I have black wheels so the red bead would probably show up pretty good on my bike also. Still not as much as the wide red stripe I'm sportin' right now.
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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 08:22:18 PM »
That is okay.....Piranha thinks that my bike is loud. :(  sniff...... :'( 





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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 06:51:26 AM »
That is okay.....Piranha thinks that my bike is loud. :(  sniff...... :'( 





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Actually, your bike is not what I'd consider "loud". Your frame has a basic color and paint design (graphics, name ,ect.) so the red tires and accessories look good. My bike is a dark color with multi colored flames and designs on it. When you add color in the tires it just makes the bike look to "busy" or "loud". I have 1 of the 2 MotoRaptor's mounted already (the other one I had to order) and it definately looks WAY BETTER than the Panaracers. Now, performance is another thing-I'm not expecting them to be as good as the Fire xc's but if they are at least as good as my Mythos xc's were in the handling/cornering department, then they will stay on the bike. I know they will be better than the Mythos xc's in the roots and bumps (better sidewalls=lower pressure). I'll have this all worked out before we start the "hole in the fence" rides on March 11th. Who knows, I may show up with the Panaracers on the bike!
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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 08:30:15 AM »
Are the Panaracers in good shape?
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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 08:40:52 AM »
Are the Panaracers in good shape?

Perfect shape...... ridden twice or three times at flatwoods. I'm not going to part with them untill I ride the motoraptors a few times to compare. The MotoRaptors are going to have to really impress me to get rid of the Fire xc's. Nothing wrong with having a few spares laying around. I've got a collection going: Bontrager Jones xr 2.25/2.20, IRC Mythos XC k 2.1 (2 sets), IRC Backcountry 2.25, Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1, WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race.
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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 09:38:21 AM »
Bunny's bike ain't loud, it's just DIRTY!!!

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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 10:40:05 AM »
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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2008, 10:41:49 PM »
Bunny's bike ain't loud, it's just DIRTY!!!



True, very dirty! That is because I don't have to steer around mud, I just go right through it with plenty of traction!!!! :D


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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 08:51:18 PM »
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You cant buy the knockoff's with a black sidewall. They all have a wide stripe. Red, Blue, or Yellow.


Not true, I just bought my girl the black side walls (no thin or thick stripe) before I found out there was a Taiwan version - 76 TPI.
The thin red stripe version from Japan I think is a 127 TPI.
My TPI numbers may not be actual cause I'm pulling them out of my head but I know I'm close. 
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Re: WTB MotoRaptor 2.14 race?
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 08:54:18 PM »
Is that a UST Tire? The only XC Pros with all black sidewalls are tubless.  They are 66 tpi.
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« Last Edit: February 18, 2008, 09:13:03 PM by hairball »
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