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12 hour or 100 mile race
« on: September 18, 2008, 12:36:25 PM »
Which is harder both mentally and physically?

Never done a hundie yet so not sure.
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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 12:46:33 PM »
seems like a 100 would be harder - a 12 hour you see the same 10 miles over and over and you learn the trail a little better?

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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 12:54:21 PM »
Depends on which hundie or 12 hour you're talking about... both are hard, that's for sure!



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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 01:02:47 PM »
in a hundie if it is an out n back...you have to keep going to get back - it is easier to quit in a 12 hour

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 01:14:03 PM »
Its all in the perspective.

But I would say a 12 hour is easier cause you only have to worry about the lap your on.  A hundred miles is a hundred miles and you may get to some points where you cant quit, you have to keep going to make it to a safe point.

But Luis is right, both are hard.


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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 01:15:29 PM »
I have never done either....in 2 days I will attempt a 12

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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 01:17:10 PM »
Depends on which hundie or 12 hour you're talking about... both are hard, that's for sure!

Terrain obviously plays a major factor and it will not be fair to compare two different events regardless of how many times you look at the elevation profiles. And yes on a 12 hours set-up you learn each section everytime you lap but at the same time it's mind numbing to hit the same section for however number of times, which makes me think some hundie is easier mentally since you only have to do it twice (or however it was laid out).
But racing a hundie forces you to stick to a certain pace to avoid being branded "the dude who dnf" while a 12 hour you can pace yourself on a comfy effort to avoid an early burn out.
So I guess I just have to do a hundie next year to find out.

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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 01:42:07 PM »
Well my 100 mile race took me longer than 12 hours  :)  So it was harder  ;D
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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 01:52:19 PM »
So I guess I just have to do a hundie next year to find out.

Yes...



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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 02:11:26 PM »
Man, what a loaded question! Lots of good points above, but in the end the formats are very different and very similar at the same time.

They both have the planning and preparation aspects, just applied differently.

Pacing is very important in both, but they're applied differently. In a hundie, you ask "how long do I think it will take me to finish" and apply pacing accordingly. In a 12 hour, you ask "what pace can I roll for 12 hours consistently" and apply pacing accordingly.

I think the mental aspect becomes very important once the race goes beyond 6 hours. Both formats go beyond that, but the mental games that get played are different.

The terrain in hundies tends to be more difficult than a 12-hour course.

I like hundies better, mostly because of the big loop format and the feeling of being really out in the wilderness during much of the race.

There's a couple of very well-run hundies that run through awesome terrain in the southeast, so there's no reason to try one out. You could also do something shorter such as ORAMM or the Fool's Gold 50. It's like trying out a 6-hour before jumping into a 12-hour.

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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 02:50:04 PM »
Man, what a loaded question! Lots of good points above, but in the end the formats are very different and very similar at the same time.

They both have the planning and preparation aspects, just applied differently.

Pacing is very important in both,.......

Thanks.

There is the difference between a top competitive racer and a "just-want-to-finish 100 miler" or "just-want-to-survive 12 hr racer"  - pacing, whereas weekend Joe is just aiming for a decent finished number of laps on a 12 hr race so he sits on the pit and contemplate if he still can make another round ,which by the way is not an option on a 100 miler.

Harvey is right pointing out the sense of adventure in 100 miler compare to the drudgery of same terrain (kinda like Nascar).
As a weekend rider and race for fun I think a hundie is more challeging because of time constraint regardless of terrain.

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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 03:55:55 PM »
They both have the planning and preparation aspects, just applied differently.

That must be my mistake then... ;D

I wish there was a hundo (real one not 2 50 mile laps) closer to us (besides Cohutta 100 "the mother of all soul crushing gravel grinders from hell") I think next year I'll pass, for the expense a couple of days in Pisgah are much more appealing anyway...


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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 04:07:13 PM »
for the expense a couple of days in Pisgah are much more appealing anyway...
Word.

Maybe you should plan on coming to the SM100 with me next year. That race, IMO, is the mother of all hundies.

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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 04:14:56 PM »
for the expense a couple of days in Pisgah are much more appealing anyway...
Word.

Maybe you should plan on coming to the SM100 with me next year. That race, IMO, is the mother of all hundies.

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Re: 12 hour or 100 mile race
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 04:17:00 PM »
Maybe you should plan on coming to the SM100 with me next year. That race, IMO, is the mother of all hundies.

It's been on my calendar for the past 2 years...something has always come up...hopefully next year!

 

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