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« on: December 17, 2008, 09:32:05 AM »
Okay, so now that you guys have got me addicted.  I am trying get a gameplan on my next rig.

So, I have a question: (will add more they come)
  -  Is there a hands-down full suspension frame/bike?  So many options these days it's hard to tell which company has really dedicated themselves to the R&D of full suspension.
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Re: Noob Need to knows
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2008, 09:36:48 AM »
There are tons of great full suspension designs out there and very few, if any, bad ones.  That said, based on the riding you want to do, there are frames out there that will be better suited to meeting your needs than others.

For around here, I think the Giant Trance/Trance X frames are pretty good.
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Re: Noob Need to knows
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2008, 09:56:08 AM »
Could not have said it better :)

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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2008, 10:10:29 AM »
Okay, so now that you guys have got me addicted.  I am trying get a gameplan on my next rig.

So, I have a question: (will add more they come)
  -  Is there a hands-down full suspension frame/bike?  So many options these days it's hard to tell which company has really dedicated themselves to the R&D of full suspension.


Full suspension is a lot of money for a bike that will never be as efficient as a hardtail.  For this geographic area, Full suspension is OVERKILL.  However, if you got the money to spend then do what you like, but if your on a budget you will get more bang for your buck on a hardtail then a full suspension.

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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 10:36:26 AM »
I have to disagree with full suspension being over kill, sure you can ride with out it but why? What we lack in technical features we more than make up for with ROOTS :o The addition of a rear shock takes a lot of the beating and fatigue out of the ride making it a more enjoyable experience. And when you do hit some technical stuff, the rear suspension will keep the bike in contact with the trail. The Trance that BillT mentioned can be purchased pretty economically, probably cheaper than a lot of those exotic HT's being sported around here :)

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2008, 10:37:52 AM »
I didn't even want to bother to respond since the OP specifically asked about full suspension designs so I'm glad Anthem did.
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Re: Noob Need to knows
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2008, 10:56:08 AM »
For around here, I think the Giant Trance/Trance X frames are pretty good.

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Does giant maestro on the Trance stil use 4 or 5 pivot points on the FS?  If I was going to buy another FS bike, I would stay away from the multi-pivot rear supensions.  I know I had a well documented troublesome 2005 Giant Reign but the maestro suspension on that bike used a ton of pivots.  It cost me over $300 to replace them.  It seemed they needed to be replaced like every year.  That was not pretty.  I think Santa Cruz'es were not any better.  At least the 2005-2007 ones.  NOt saying they ALL were like that but just expensive to replace pivot bols and bearings every time.  And you needed to pressure fit them so is not like I could do it myself.

Is there an FS with the mininum (1 or 2) pivots that works well?

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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2008, 11:00:36 AM »
The Giants are still using the same pivots so it can be troublesome to replace, but not a deal-killer (at least for me).

There are plenty of great single-pivot designs out there if you want to keep simpler - look at Cannondale, Santa Cruz Heckler/Superlight.

The new generation of Santa Cruz and Intense frames have grease ports for easy bearing maintenance and Turner offers this as well on their frames.
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Re: Noob Need to knows
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2008, 11:24:46 AM »
Survey: What's in your garage?
HT, FS, or both


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Re: Noob Need to knows
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2008, 11:27:01 AM »
My understanding is that the bearing issue was adressed in 05/06. I thrashed my 07 with no issues or maintance :)

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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2008, 11:37:37 AM »
I like my stumpy full squish- going on 2 years no probs
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2008, 11:44:14 AM »
I guess you guys missed the point of my original post.

Full suspension.  Is fine, if you can afford it.

You take a 1200 full suspension bike and 1200 dollar hard tail and your going to get more and better parts for your bucks then an FS.

If you got the cash, then by all means ride a couch around the trail.

But, if money is a factor, for Florida its OVERKILL.  There arent enough roots to justify the need to spend that much on a bike if its not in your budget.

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Re: Noob Need to knows
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2008, 11:46:04 AM »
My Giant Trance works great for FL, and I might have mentioned this already, but it is for sale at a bargain price.

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Re: Noob Need to knows
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2008, 12:02:09 PM »
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Survey: What's in your garage?
HT, FS, or both

1 of each.

I actually like riding the HT best around MB/Trout/Flatwoods, but seem to be riding the FS exclusively everywhere lately.
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Re: Noob Need to knows
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2008, 12:05:09 PM »
This could go on and on, the best thing you can do is ride the bikes your interested in and make a choice by the seat of your pants.I have a Trance you are more than welcome to spend the day on, let me know and we will ride Boyette or Flatwoods :)

 

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