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Project LTS-1000
« on: January 31, 2009, 10:50:26 PM »
After figuring out, my budget wasn't going to allow for me to buy a bike this year, I got to thinking about what to do to change things up..I remembered I had this LTS-1000 front triangle, that I had taken the rear triangle on to install, on my old bike.

I didn't use this frame, because, I liked the way the old one looked, but now, the LTS 3000, has acquired enough mileage to justify retirement, so I dug up the unused frame, and it being bare aluminum, I broke out the mothers aluminum polish, and got it to a near chrome finish...this will only last for a few rides, but, it's the initial pictures that count..lol

I have on order a RockShox Tora 318 u-turn, new bottom bracket, and some new Nevagals, among other things, but by the time, I am done, my bike should have dropped about 1.5 lbs or so, and will be considerably more refined..

I just got my Crosslands, trued and checked, (Thanks Art.), and I'm waiting for my parts for final assembly..

cant wait..

not quite bike porn, but definately skinimax. :D

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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 04:36:00 PM »
Ok, I know what I pay for when I go to the LBS.  >:(

I place an order with Jenson for my stuff for this project, totaling nearly $700...

issue #1, when I picked my fork, which happened to be a RockShox Tora 318, it said, I qualified for a free head set..I said "sweet." because I needed one, and was going to order one anyway..It sent me to a separate page, asked me if I wanted it, and what color I wanted, upon picking it, it added both the fork and the head set to my "shopping cart".
after checkout, I looked on the final order list, the head set wasn't listed. So, I called them up. They said that fork didn't qualify for the free head set, so I explained that it did say it, and they proceed to tell me they looked the history up and that, that fork NEVER came with a free headset. WTF? I know I'm not nuts, I recall clearly, picking a silver one, and reading that it was $43 in one column, and $0 in the total column.
All that said, I had no leg to stand on, it was my word against theirs. I know I'm right, but have no way to prove it one way or the other. That, is a shady buisness practice, it takes a concerted effort to either, alter, or ignore, a products history.

Issue #2. So I get an email, that says my order shipped on Monday, and would be here by 3pm Tuesday. The FedEx guy shows up, and hands me a box, that couldn't possibly have all my parts..one fork spring.
So I check my status with Jenson again, and now I see that the RIM TAPE I ordered, was now all of a sudden, on back order. This wasn't the case, when I placed my order, or even immedieately thereafter.
And it said rim tape was expected in on Feb. 6th..they we're going to hold the rest of my order, until then..FOR FRIGGAN RIM TAPE!!!!!

I called and asked them what the deal was, and they said they'd be happy to forward the rest of my order, and send the rim tape when it came in. WHY IN THE SAM HELL WOULDN'T THEY JUST AUTOMATICALLY DO THAT>???!?!?!?
holy crap, this company has been a joke to deal with, do they think, I paid the extra money for next day air, just so I could go on and wait until the 6th?

wow...I wont ever place another order with Jenson.com

I cringe at the thought of almost paying a 100% mark up at the LBS, but atleast they either have it, or they don't, and you usually wont get jerked around like this.  :(
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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2009, 05:14:52 PM »
I have had the same experience with them ??? They are a bargain basement two year agos stock clearing house, when it's gone it's gone. With all that said, they do have some blow out prices occasionally :)

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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2009, 05:36:20 PM »
it really sucks, because 2 year old unsold technology, is often times the best way to get really good gear on the cheap..but in the end is it worth the headaches?
I'm fortunate, I can do my own work on everything except wheels, so buying on the net is usually the best way to go, considering I do my own work, but I also lack patience for stupidity... ::)
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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 09:38:22 PM »
It cost less for them to ship everything together and there is not a 100% mark up at most bike shops there are those that offer a healthy SWAMP discount

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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 10:08:22 PM »
I got Kenda Nevegals for $34.00
at UBC they are $49.99 ea...
thats close enough to 100% for me. :(

I worked in motorcycle accessory wholesaling, and the mark up is insane, at the retail level.
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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2009, 04:34:58 PM »
Thamks LTS the Nevegal1s at the shop are 39.95 about the same you will pay w\shipping,Thanks

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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2009, 04:47:42 PM »
Back in the day, my dream bike was a GT STS.
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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2009, 06:11:08 PM »
I got a GT peace 9R SS for christmas more fun than I ever thought

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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2009, 11:40:16 PM »
Thamks LTS the Nevegal1s at the shop are 39.95 about the same you will pay w\shipping,Thanks

no offense bro, I'm basing this off what I seen earlier that day at UBC. unless you have a "at the register" discount, the tag says $49.95
Smile Steve. :) I can assure you, I'll pay whatever mark-up there is from here on out, I'm too impatient to wait on mail order, and I cant handle stupidity, and to that, I'll talk about below. I like UBC, the staff always takes care of me, but I had a relatively small budget to buy a bunch of parts, and couldn't afford to buy them through the LBS's..

But I will come spend my money with you guys to correct what the mail order place screwed up.  ;)
« Last Edit: February 04, 2009, 11:44:04 PM by LTS guy »
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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009, 12:15:02 AM »
Back in the day, my dream bike was a GT STS.

this was never my dream bike, but it was destiny.
when I was first introduced to mountain biking, like most noobs, I couldn't and wouldn't spend any money on a decent bike, so my first time at Boyette, on a Walmart Next, at the trail head this guy was showing my LTS to someone else, for sale, so I asked what he wanted he said $500.

I didn't have it at the time, so I took his number, and went home.
I lost it, and forgot about it. $ months later, I had the itch to really get into biking, and I had about $500 in hand, and after not laying eyes on the guys phone number for 4 months, I moved one stack of papers, and it was laying right there.
So I called him, and to my surprise, he hadn't sold it, and now he'd take $300 for it.
The fork and the rear shock was blown, so I took the $200 I had left, and bought a fork, and a few weeks later a new reisse racing rear shock...over time, I have dropped a couple of thousand bucks, but thats a testament to the quality and durability of this frame, it has outlasted, a few component sets..

It has always been very reliable, and comfortable, and frankly has kept me into a sport, ruled by money, despite not having much of it, and I have never felt under equipped.
If GT re-released this today, it would outsell the I-Drive 10 to 1...especially with todays modern shock technologies, the frame design is proven, the ride would only get better, and its pretty damned good already.
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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2009, 08:47:15 AM »
Cool story,I am always smiling life is too short not to have fun  ;D ;D

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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 09:06:40 AM »
All that said, I had no leg to stand on, it was my word against theirs. I know I'm right, but have no way to prove it one way or the other. That, is a shady buisness practice, it takes a concerted effort to either, alter, or ignore, a products history.

Did you try to order the fork again and see if the free headset offer came up again, and if it did simply take a screen shot of it for proof?  A site as big as jensen isn't trying to rip anyone off and isn't out to personally sabatoge your bike build, get a grip, they are a huge site with a lot of website code that probably needs an overhaul, this  happens.  But their CS probably just should have given you the free headset if they were cool, maybe they were having a bad day too, people are people.
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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2009, 01:35:56 AM »
Update*--

I finished the build with exception of the front derailleur, I ordered the wrong size, so I had to ship that back to jenson..god only knows when I will get the correct one on it's way, but none the less, I have been tweaking, and adjusting, and now have the bike riding like butter, no creaks (until the first official ride that is. ::)) The suspension is where I like it, the *pit is comfortable, and for the most part I'm ready for a Boyette, Alafia trip, I rarely is ever come out of the middle chain ring there anyway..I took it for a test ride, at WTA, and rode, the trails generally included in the Squiggy, and aside from forgetting my tire pump at home, and having to ride easy over the roots accordingly, the ride went smoothly..I had a bad pivot creak, but I had it over torqued, and I cleaned and re-lubed it, and no more creak, (again, for now. LTS's are famous for their creaky pivots.)

The front brake that DeV donated, got a new set of pads, and a new 160mm rotor, and a spiffy polish job to match the frame., much love to Dev for hooking a brotha up. :D

So, I sit at 98% completion, but, the bike rides beautifully....I'll upload new pics tomorrow.

(If any Squiggy volunteers in the race route department, happens to read this, see if you can work the ridgeline on the sandvalley, into the route this year, maybe even down one of the ensuing drops, and up and over Killanoob..just a thought. ;) )
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Re: Project LTS-1000
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2009, 05:53:32 AM »
Jenson has been pretty good to me.There is an option when you order to have everything shipped except for your backorder but you have to pay a few bucks for this option. Of course, you have to know if something is backordered to take this action and it sounds like when you checked the status everything showed up as "in stock". I doubt that you made an error due to the fact that you said you kept checking on it and it didn't show any issues. This is a weird one for sure. I have had my items show up in two different boxes a day apart though, like they came from two different warehouses. That does piss me off because you're always missing the part you actually need to fix your bike or complete the current project.
One thing I really don't like is that if you place an order and then realize you forgot something, they make you call them to add the additional item. They say it's because they ship the orders so fast. Another thing I don't like is if you buy like $100 of stuff (instead of one thing for $100) you don't get free shipping.

You may be stuck using Jenson because I haven't found another place that carries so me odd ball little things. They are my first choice if I'm ordering a group of parts but for just one item I price check at Backcountry, Greenfishsports, or Pricepoint. None of the other places I've shopped seem to have close to the quanity of parts Jenson carries. I would send them an email about your experience, never know, something good may come of it.

Bike shops seem to carry very little in stock and in my experience they make mistakes often when ordering stuff for you. If they are busy when you place your order this increases the odds of a total screw up. Only once or twice have I received a heartfelt "sorry" that my bike was going to be broken down for another week now because they ordered the wrong part for me. I now try to find the few guys in a shop who seem to care and then only use them for help.

I just ordered a few things from Jenson the other day and they easily saved me $100 over the bike shop prices. With that savings I'm left with no choice but to shop online.
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