and vice versa.
Also, look who has had five bikes since then.....
1. 600 Giant entry level bike
2. santa cruz - started racing and it had too much pedal bob
3. salsa el santo - too racey and light was nervous on it
4. GF rig - big wheels were not my cup-o-tea
5. ellsworth epiphany - great pedaling effeciency w/plenty of comfy travel