SWAMP Mountain Bike Community Forums

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

Shout Box

[History] [Commands]

[Today at 02:16:40 PM] StonePony: didn't know there was one scheduled.  Was just going to do a 90 minute ride solo starting around 5 or 5:30

[Today at 02:16:42 PM] FACTORe: from what I can read this is an Asian version of the XTC with different stickers

[Today at 02:16:46 PM] Scott: I don't think so Fe, I have seen the ATX frames on Ebay posing as XTC's

[Today at 02:16:58 PM] FACTORe: they are Asian

[Today at 02:17:01 PM] StonePony: you're welcome to join of course

[Today at 02:17:02 PM] FACTORe: same weight 

[Today at 02:17:06 PM] Scott: that could be Fe

[Today at 02:17:07 PM] FACTORe: and geometry

[Today at 02:17:17 PM] FACTORe: for $190 for a new one - crap

[Today at 02:17:24 PM] FACTORe: would be cheap to set up a hard tail

[Today at 02:17:29 PM] Scott: wish I could, gotta see a man about a wheel

[Today at 02:17:59 PM] FACTORe: I know who?

Advanced search  

News:

Thank You for participating in our Forums!  You add character to our site!

Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down

Author Topic: what is the better sram or shimano?  (Read 451 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

FACTORe

  • Ride Guide
  • Yellow Jersey
  • *****
  • Outside Sport/813 Racing
  • Karma: +9/-24
  • Online Online
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 3361
what is the better sram or shimano?
« on: August 06, 2009, 11:35:22 AM »
?
Logged
notice has been served - 813 racing is in the house

mmountainbiker

  • SWAMPer
  • Amatuer Billy Goat
  • ****
  • 2009 trek 8000
  • Karma: +3/-72
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 100
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2009, 12:06:13 PM »
well theres a video showing the XTR deraileur  moving around more than a XO. I heard someone saying that less movement reduces chain slap on chain stay. I dont see how as the chain tension in that area had nothing to do with moving deraileur, but im sure someone knows more than me about that.
Scram had more brake systems to chose from. I heard the new XX cassette takes 9 hours to cnc. I wonder how much that would cost as the start up cost to buy the machines to keep up with demand.1 machine can only make 2.6 per day. I havent used the newer sram shifters, and have often wondered what the difference would be. Sram has shinier chains,but I think all in all shimano is more expensive and have to give sram thier due by starting with grip shift and by aquisition have brought a crank maker, rock shox,sack, avid to the table to give shimano a run for thier money
Logged
W.A.F. !   who cares. If she don,t like it she can go live with her mother  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKIIxrUKxBg

ProEdgeBiker

  • SWAMPer
  • Ninja Master Cyclist
  • ****
  • You Know It!
  • Karma: +30/-575
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 567
    • WWW
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2009, 12:10:08 PM »
I Preffer XTR, looking forward to the 10spd system from SHimano
Logged
VholdR HD Videos:
http://www.vholdr.com/user/6917
Facebook HD Videos(Fan Page):
http://www.facebook.com/pages/ProEdgeBikercom/79893155221
YouTube MTB Videos & More:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=proedgebiker&view=videos

FACTORe

  • Ride Guide
  • Yellow Jersey
  • *****
  • Outside Sport/813 Racing
  • Karma: +9/-24
  • Online Online
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 3361
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 12:13:33 PM »
Quote from: ProEdgeBiker on August 06, 2009, 12:10:08 PM
I Preffer XTR, looking forward to the 10spd system from SHimano

they are doing something to go after the xx?
Logged
notice has been served - 813 racing is in the house

KRUNNCHERO

  • Frankenbike builder!
  • Global Moderator
  • Cycling Sherpa
  • *****
  • Evil thread hijacker!
  • Karma: +33/-164
  • Online Online
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 498
    • WWW
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2009, 12:17:47 PM »
SRAM = loud, crisp, confident shifting (no ghost shifting), 1.1 actuation...
 
Shimano = quiet, smooth shifting (possible ghost shifting due to lack of tension and fine adjustments necessary), 2.1 actuation...
 
I personally have used XTR RDs, LX RDs, SRAM X9 and X7 RDs. I have also used all three types of cages and prefer the Short above them all. I would take SRAM ten fold over Shimano based on the crisp shifting and ease of wrenching.
Logged
We continuously seek feedback from you as to how we can improve our policies and procedures since our primary goal is to act in partnership with you. If you have any questions or need to report any problems on the SWAMP forum, please send me a PM and I will get back with you ASAP.

slowfatguy

  • SWAMPer
  • Yellow Jersey
  • ****
  • Karma: +78/-98
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 1170
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2009, 12:30:52 PM »
I've had bikes with XTR, and ones with XO. They both work well, and the point about the SRAM having less chain slap is true. When you are pedaling it doesn't matter, but when you are coasting over rough stuff it makes a difference. Is it a huge deal, not really. IME the SRAM stuff seems to be less sensitive to sticking in the shifter cables also, the cables have to get really bad before the shifting starts to mess up. I prefer SRAM, but like I said earlier they both work.
Logged
Jason.
Garry says I get a trail building star!

Gregg

  • Global Moderator
  • Yellow Jersey
  • *****
  • Crazed Bunny with limited traction on leaves.
  • Karma: +257/-203
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 2906
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2009, 01:06:12 PM »
coke or pepsi?
 
ford or chevy?
 
milk chocolate or dark chocolate?
Logged
"You can blow out a candle, but you can't blow out a fire. Once the flame begins to catch, the wind will blow it higher"

Darrinw2001

  • SWAMPer
  • Ninja Master Cyclist
  • ****
  • Current Ride: 07' Cannondale Caffeine 29er
  • Karma: +37/-148
  • Online Online
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 572
    • WWW
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2009, 01:14:19 PM »
Giant or Specialized? oh yeah, they are the same...
Logged
If your not bleeding, your not having fun!

Alan

  • SWAMPer
  • Cycling Sherpa
  • ****
  • Karma: +19/-60
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 308
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2009, 01:19:11 PM »
Quote from: Gregg on August 06, 2009, 01:06:12 PM
coke or pepsi?
 
ford or chevy?
 
milk chocolate or dark chocolate?

coke

neither

dark



I prefer the cleaner cable routing on the SRAM read der. SRAM's middle price point items also seem much more solidly built when compared to  Shimano's of similar price/spec.

Logged

mksandoz

  • SWAMPer
  • Cycling Sherpa
  • ****
  • roadie
  • Karma: +30/-59
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 360
    • WWW
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2009, 02:02:41 PM »
MY BIKE ALL CAMPY
Logged
Don't buy upgrades, ride up grades - Eddy Merckx

http://mksandoz.blogspot.com/

mmountainbiker

  • SWAMPer
  • Amatuer Billy Goat
  • ****
  • 2009 trek 8000
  • Karma: +3/-72
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 100
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2009, 02:40:23 PM »
One thing I have noticed was how smooth my 2001 xtr shifters were compared to my 2009 xt shifters. The newer xt are crisper and louder and the spring in either the shifter or rr deraileur seem stronger. I wonder if rear hub ( rachet system)has any part in the chain slap delima.because the casette has to spin for the slap to be possible and then the spring in deraileur comes into play to try to stop it correct?
Logged
W.A.F. !   who cares. If she don,t like it she can go live with her mother  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKIIxrUKxBg

ProEdgeBiker

  • SWAMPer
  • Ninja Master Cyclist
  • ****
  • You Know It!
  • Karma: +30/-575
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 567
    • WWW
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2009, 02:46:14 PM »
Quote from: Darrinw2001 on August 06, 2009, 01:14:19 PM
Giant or Specialized? oh yeah, they are the same...


got one more for ya... Turner's FSR.. Specialized's FSR... UMMMMMMmmmmm
Logged
VholdR HD Videos:
http://www.vholdr.com/user/6917
Facebook HD Videos(Fan Page):
http://www.facebook.com/pages/ProEdgeBikercom/79893155221
YouTube MTB Videos & More:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=proedgebiker&view=videos

ProEdgeBiker

  • SWAMPer
  • Ninja Master Cyclist
  • ****
  • You Know It!
  • Karma: +30/-575
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 567
    • WWW
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2009, 02:49:11 PM »
Quote from: only the FACTOR on August 06, 2009, 12:13:33 PM
Quote from: ProEdgeBiker on August 06, 2009, 12:10:08 PM
I Preffer XTR, looking forward to the 10spd system from SHimano

they are doing something to go after the xx?

only a matter of time now, they will take some of the DuraAce Technology.
Logged
VholdR HD Videos:
http://www.vholdr.com/user/6917
Facebook HD Videos(Fan Page):
http://www.facebook.com/pages/ProEdgeBikercom/79893155221
YouTube MTB Videos & More:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=proedgebiker&view=videos

Gregg

  • Global Moderator
  • Yellow Jersey
  • *****
  • Crazed Bunny with limited traction on leaves.
  • Karma: +257/-203
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 2906
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2009, 03:58:49 PM »
Quote from: mmountainbiker on August 06, 2009, 02:40:23 PM
One thing I have noticed was how smooth my 2001 xtr shifters were compared to my 2009 xt shifters. The newer xt are crisper and louder and the spring in either the shifter or rr deraileur seem stronger. I wonder if rear hub ( rachet system)has any part in the chain slap delima.because the casette has to spin for the slap to be possible and then the spring in deraileur comes into play to try to stop it correct?

 
I was making the same observation to some of the guys on Sunday. I rode my old bike with it's 2006 XTR and had forgotten how really smooth it was. I have new XT rear and had XTR rear (before a big stick put an end to that expensive dream) They shift very similarly to each other, and frankly they have been made to feel more like the current sram.....Shimano is my choice.
 
 
Truthfully, there isn't a significant difference in quality at the same pricepoints.
Logged
"You can blow out a candle, but you can't blow out a fire. Once the flame begins to catch, the wind will blow it higher"

Gregg

  • Global Moderator
  • Yellow Jersey
  • *****
  • Crazed Bunny with limited traction on leaves.
  • Karma: +257/-203
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 2906
Re: what is the better sram or shimano?
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2009, 04:00:02 PM »
Quote from: ProEdgeBiker on August 06, 2009, 02:46:14 PM
Quote from: Darrinw2001 on August 06, 2009, 01:14:19 PM
Giant or Specialized? oh yeah, they are the same...

got one more for ya... Turner's FSR.. Specialized's FSR... UMMMMMMmmmmm

TURNER!!!!! ;D
Logged
"You can blow out a candle, but you can't blow out a fire. Once the flame begins to catch, the wind will blow it higher"
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
« previous next »
 

Page created in 0.286 seconds with 18 queries.