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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2010, 11:41:33 AM »
One thing I have found that has helped me alot was to switch over from gels and that stuff during a ride to eating real food. I now carry a bag of trail mix with me during a ride. It can't make up for not eating right before hand, but it helps extend those 10-12 mile rides into 25+.
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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2010, 02:02:54 PM »
Question for Jonesy:
Can you explain better the body using fat for extra energy? I am a big guy, 260, I am about 30-35 lbs over where I should be. My extra weight is all in my gut.
If I start slow I can ride for long periods 3-4 hours no problem. I can even go all day. I dont bonk, IF I start slow and maintain a steady pace. I dont eat much when I ride. I eat fruit before my rides. I'd prefer not to stop or stop only for short periods (I stiffen up).
When I ride hard early and try to keep up with faster riders I burn out and bonk. Slower is faster for me. When you first started losing weight was it the same for you?
I have started losing weight again and am trying to keep the process moving......
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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2010, 02:31:18 PM »
being heavy means that you are carrying along all that mass that does not contribute anything to the effort. You will fatigue faster as you are doing more work.
By eating a diet that is completely and totally without sugar or carbs including fruit, juice, chocolate, alcohol, even salad dressings with sugar in the ingredient list, after about 7-10 days, the body will switch over to burning that stored fat as energy. I felt it happen. If you stay with that diet, and ride at a moderate pace for extended periods of time, you can lose weight fast. After desired weight loss goals have been met, you don't even want simple carbs any more. You can reintroduce fruit and complex carbs and maintain the fat burning process.
When you have all that quick sugar available, your body won't ever dig deep to get to the stored energy that it has put away. So your tank empties, and you bonk. That is why afternoon rides are harder for you because you have used up the glycogen (sugars) in your blood during your daily activities compared to morning when they are replenished after rest.
   

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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2010, 03:00:56 PM »
Damn Jonesy, thats some good stuff...where did you learn all that?

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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2010, 03:01:43 PM »
being heavy means that you are carrying along all that mass that does not contribute anything to the effort. You will fatigue faster as you are doing more work.
By eating a diet that is completely and totally without sugar or carbs including fruit, juice, chocolate, alcohol, even salad dressings with sugar in the ingredient list, after about 7-10 days, the body will switch over to burning that stored fat as energy. I felt it happen. If you stay with that diet, and ride at a moderate pace for extended periods of time, you can lose weight fast. After desired weight loss goals have been met, you don't even want simple carbs any more. You can reintroduce fruit and complex carbs and maintain the fat burning process.
When you have all that quick sugar available, your body won't ever dig deep to get to the stored energy that it has put away. So your tank empties, and you bonk. That is why afternoon rides are harder for you because you have used up the glycogen (sugars) in your blood during your daily activities compared to morning when they are replenished after rest.
   

That's all good and well for lower intensities (~50% VO2max), but as intensity increases your fat metabolism drops significantly and the body mainly uses glycogen for energy. 

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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2010, 03:02:20 PM »
Damn Jonesy, thats some good stuff...where did you learn all that?

The internet, of course...

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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2010, 03:14:12 PM »
books, magazines, personal trainers, fitness junkies, and yes the internets. doubts?

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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2010, 03:19:10 PM »
books, magazines, personal trainers, fitness junkies, and yes the internets. doubts?

Not at all Jonesy.. Its text book Primal Nutrition, see my link, on my initial response.. I agree. long story short..been  doing it for 2 years... its how I ROLL LOL...


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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2010, 04:11:04 PM »
being heavy means that you are carrying along all that mass that does not contribute anything to the effort. You will fatigue faster as you are doing more work.
By eating a diet that is completely and totally without sugar or carbs including fruit, juice, chocolate, alcohol, even salad dressings with sugar in the ingredient list, after about 7-10 days, the body will switch over to burning that stored fat as energy. I felt it happen. If you stay with that diet, and ride at a moderate pace for extended periods of time, you can lose weight fast. After desired weight loss goals have been met, you don't even want simple carbs any more. You can reintroduce fruit and complex carbs and maintain the fat burning process.
When you have all that quick sugar available, your body won't ever dig deep to get to the stored energy that it has put away. So your tank empties, and you bonk. That is why afternoon rides are harder for you because you have used up the glycogen (sugars) in your blood during your daily activities compared to morning when they are replenished after rest.
   

That's all good and well for lower intensities (~50% VO2max), but as intensity increases your fat metabolism drops significantly and the body mainly uses glycogen for energy.

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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2010, 04:41:50 PM »
best thing to do for stamina on the mountain bike?

ride more. ride a road bike. don't forget to eat.
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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2010, 09:26:41 PM »
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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2010, 12:01:29 AM »
best thing to do for stamina on the mountain bike?

ride more. ride a road bike. don't forget to eat.

I second the road bike thing. After getting a road bike and getting some good hours in every week my mtb stamina has doubled. I try not to think to much about eating. I do like to ask around and see what others do, then experiment with different methods. Cliff bars, gels, and some HEED on longer rides. My weakness is sugar, i need to cut it all out but im weak. 

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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2011, 07:25:40 AM »
Red blood cells provide your muscles with oxygen during exercise. Leafy greens, such as romaine lettuce, spinach and mustard greens, support red blood cell production in your body because they contain high iron levels, McDougall writes. Leafy green sources also provide fiber, vitamins, minerals and antioxidants, which stabilize blood sugar and promote overall body functions.


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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2011, 02:24:06 PM »
Short ride fuel:


Endurance ride fuel:

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Re: Eating for Stamina
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2011, 03:58:44 PM »
Short ride fuel:


Endurance ride fuel:



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