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Which light is the $90 one?

Light A
8 (57.1%)
Light B
6 (42.9%)

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another thread on lights...
« on: October 13, 2010, 10:17:12 AM »
Both lights side by side.  Light B (left) light A (right):

 
Both lights together:

 
Light A: (bar mounted)

 
Light B: (helmet mounted)

 
 

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2010, 10:22:56 AM »
Why am I asking? ... one of these lights cost me $90 at 900 led lumens.  The other is also an led one but cost me $400 at 700 lumens.  So which is the cheapo light?
 
Both have good and bads.  I'll post more later.

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2010, 10:26:20 AM »
Why am I asking? ... one of these lights cost me $90 at 900 led lumens.  The other is also an led one but cost me $400 at 700 lumens.  So which is the cheapo light?
 
Both have good and bads.  I'll post more later.

How long does A or B last?

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2010, 10:35:20 AM »
Why am I asking? ... one of these lights cost me $90 at 900 led lumens.  The other is also an led one but cost me $400 at 700 lumens.  So which is the cheapo light?
 
Both have good and bads.  I'll post more later.


How long does A or B last?
The cheapo light is the Magic Shine MS-900 Plus (http://www.geomangear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_41&products_id=180&zenid=rnchhh4dkhcjftl3msfvh2jtt0) it is supposed to last 3 hrs.  The other light I am comparing it with is my Light and Motion Seca 700 lumens (http://www.performancebike.com/bikes//Product_10052_10551_1097537_-1___) It is supposed to last 2.5 hrs on high but I have gotten 3 hrs out of it.  All the specs are on those links.
 
So which one is the cheapo light?   One more thing, the cheap lights seems smaller and lighter.  Again, more on this later.

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2010, 10:42:55 AM »
Oh, and before you give me a hard time about illegal night riding... it was twilight time as I made my way out out of the place...  proof:
 

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2010, 10:49:38 AM »
i have no idea so i guessed. please give some details about the magicshine when you are done with the voting.

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2010, 11:26:25 AM »
B is my vote

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2010, 11:47:20 AM »
A is magicshine, more of a spotlight. less diffused
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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2010, 12:16:09 PM »
My Magic Shine looks just like the spread on the right, so I voted A.
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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2010, 11:08:53 AM »
Looks like some of you recognize the MS light already.  The answer is A.  The whiter light. 
 
To some, whiter may be brighter.  But that is 900 lumens over my 700 lumens seca.  However, the Seca has a softer light and wider range.  Wider because it has more LED's mounted at different angles.  Softer white light, to me, allows me to see more depth on the roots, holes, and drops.  Whiter kind seems of hides depth.  Again, IMO.  But for $90, YES IS WORTH THE $$$.  Btw, L&M does make a 900 Lumens LED light.  But at $500-$600 range.
 
Besides, if I want wider range like the Seca, you can get the $140 Magic Shine 1400 that has wider range with the bright center spot
 
Just like everyone on the interweb is saying... if it last you one year, you can always buy another $100 light the next year and still be under what you pay for a fancy light.
 
In justification for my expensive Seca.  I wish the MS had the following things but at less then $100, you can expect to never see them. 
 
Things my L&M Seca has that the $80 cheap light will probably never get:
- Easier and ONE mount for all scenarios.  On the MS light, you have to unscrew the base to get the O-ring on. You need two different size O-rings depending on what size of bar you have or mounting on helmet vs. bar.
- Swivel head.  ON MS, yOu can force a slight left-right swivel but it doesn't stay.  So is streight on and up and down only.
- Easier dislodge from main light to base.  Seca comes with easy re-mount kit for those times you hit the a tree branch with the light.  If you have same hit with the MS light, warranty replacement or new purchase time.  The outer shell of the MS light will probably brake off.
- Longer manufacturer warranty.  I hope I don't have to find out though.
- The Seca worked great the first time.  I didn't have to try to get 3 lights to finally find out it works! 
- Rear mounted battery wire.  This is why you have unscrew the mount on the MS light to get the O-ring on.
 
Things the Cheap MS light has that I wish my Seca had:
- Lightness.  Battery and headlight seems lighter AND smaller than the Seca.
- Battery charge left indicator.  Seca flashes a few times when you have like 5-10 minutes left.  MS light has 100%, 75%, 50%, 25%, and Oh SH*T 0% indicators.  (great feature if you can see while mounted on bar.  Won't see if you have on your helmet)
- GeoMan has great customer service.  Do NOT order from Deal Deluxe guys.
- Light dimmer feature on the MS 1400.  The $140 MS 1400 claims to have 250 hour runtime on the low setting.  That is great for one charge and slow speed/road riding.  Hmmm.. great for bikepacking.
 
 
P.S.  Geoman or MagicShine is NOT paying me to tell you this.  I know some of you are still wondering about this cheap light.  Wonder no more.  Get it, go night ride, enjoy....  I hope it helped some of you.

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2010, 12:06:39 PM »
thank you

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2010, 09:34:31 PM »
The pushbutton on the back of my MS has failed now after 11 months of use (maybe an hour a week on average). I can turn it on and off only by unplugging it from the battery pack and can no longer adjust the brightness. I'm going to pop it open and see if I can fix it.

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2010, 05:41:40 PM »
The pushbutton on the back of my MS has failed now after 11 months of use (maybe an hour a week on average). I can turn it on and off only by unplugging it from the battery pack and can no longer adjust the brightness. I'm going to pop it open and see if I can fix it.
Sorry to hear about your MS light.  Let me know if you are able to fix it.  If I get 11 months out of mine, I won't be too sad for the price we paid.
 
BTW, was your light stuck on the brightest setting?

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Re: another thread on lights...
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2010, 12:23:41 PM »
Yeah, stuck on brightest.

 

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