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Offline ecrepeau

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Trail dog
« on: November 12, 2010, 08:06:08 AM »
Coming back to my home state of FL next week and am bringing my dog with me. He comes with me on all the trails up here in my adopted state of NY.

What is the deal of having a trail dog with you on this trail?

Also, probably going to be doing the Croom Trails too, so any info on having a trail dog on those trails would be good too.

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 08:20:53 AM »
I think the law (at least at county and state parks) says Dog must be on a leash.  As with any public place, there will always be someone who may say something to you. Specially if the dog is not well mannered.  I know of others ride with their dogs but is not often.  San Felasco has a no dogs rule.  I would definately NOT take the dog to Santos, Carter, WTA, or Alafia.  I know of people who have gotten hassled about it at those trails.  I don't think anyone will care at Croom but is probably because you may never run into anyone.  Same thing at Boyette but it may be best to avoid Boyette with a dog when is very crowded (Sat and Sun mornings).
 
I am sure you know about taking extra water for your dog.  At croom there are no many places where the dog can go for a swin. Only over by the 12 mile bail out.  Boyette has many lakes.  Just watch him or he will become alligator bait.
 
 

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 08:44:59 AM »
So the suggestion to not take him with to Alafia is based on what? Cause the place gets crowded? Or is there another reason?

If that is the case I am going to be going in the middle of the week anyways and I would assume that there aren't many riders during the middle of the week. Yes/No?

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 08:50:39 AM »
So the suggestion to not take him with to Alafia is based on what? Cause the place gets crowded? Or is there another reason?

If that is the case I am going to be going in the middle of the week anyways and I would assume that there aren't many riders during the middle of the week. Yes/No?
Middle of the week will be great for having the trails to yourself  ;)
 
At Alafia, anyone can easily report you to the Ranger and they can quickly find you to ask you to leave.   But you getting this info from me and I don't have a dog.  Hopefully others will chime in if you want more intel. 
 
It has been a while but I have ran into a rider with a dog at Alafia before.  I can tell you that many let him have it for riding with the dog there.  Not sure he cared though and the worse thing they can do to you is ask you to leave and not come back for a while.

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 09:04:12 AM »
Not sure why people would give him such a hard time about riding with his dog. Guess it is different up here in NY as it is not that uncommon to have a dog with you.

I could see giving him a hard time if the dog is all over the place, etc...

In my case my dog stays glued about a foot away from my back tire and then my wife is behind him. So unless another rider was planing on riding over my wife and on my back couldn't see why anyone would have a reason to complain.

Like I said if people are coming onto any trail and their dog is all over the place getting in the path of other riders, etc... then that would be a problem.

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2010, 09:16:22 AM »
there is more traffic on trails down here due to the limited number of places to ride, Alafia is a bunch of little loops, so you are likely to run into people.  I take dogs to Boyette when I ride with them, it just seems to be the easiest place and no one has ever seemed upset.  I have taken dogs to Alafia and had both good and bad outings, stopped after the bad one.  Carter was fun and painless with them too.  I don't want to ruin someone else's day for whatever reason.  If someone doesn't like trail dogs and complains, they are the automatic winner since it really is illegal here.
 
one thing to keep in mind down here, it is unsafe to allow your dog up to the waters edge.  unless it is actually cold, I keep mine away from any thing that might harbor a gator.  we had a big one approach the dogs at the TOE and it skeered me bad.

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2010, 10:12:55 AM »
I've been to carter twice where someone had two very annoying and hyper dogs. One of those barked maniacly. It was  awful. one of those dogs actually jumped inside of my riding partners car getting mud all over his seats. The owners apology was barely contrite like it was a cute baby  doing something naughty. Dogs are not people and should be kept in their place. Reminds me of when at a 4 of July fireworks with thousands attending waiting in line at the water fountain a few persons in front of me a lady let her dog lick the fountain. I love dogs but don't ruin someone else's fun if your dog isn't well behaved cause I would be one pissed off man if I get hurt. To that guy at carter,do something about that barking dog.

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 10:15:20 AM »
Dogs on the trail = dumb...

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2010, 10:25:05 AM »
Yeah don't plan on him swimming anywhere except the bay off of one of the islands when I take him out on the boat. Even though his name is Gator I don't think he needs that close of an introduction to what he shares a name with.

Yeah I always yield to other riders when I have him with me anyways and like I said he is glued to my back tire. Since I am going to be riding in the middle of the week it doesn't sound like the trails are that used then, so from the sounds of it I don't think it will be much of an issue . Probably going to do Alafia and Boyette. Also, yes if the trails are that congested on the weekends then i would say nope to bringing him.

Thanks for the info.

As for the dog on the trail = dumb comment. If the dog isn't in your way and is trained properly to stay out of the way then the problem is.....

It sounds like you guys down there have a bunch of people who don't know how to properly train their dogs to be trail dogs or behaved dogs for that matter if they are running around jumping into other peoples cars. Like I said in my previous post if the dog is all over the place and getting in the way of other riders that is a problem.

A properly trained trail dog stays glued to you and gets out of the trail with you when yielding to other riders.

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2010, 10:47:31 AM »

Dogs on the trail = dumb...




WOW!!! Really....... thanks for the insight Darwin! And sorry MM, my dog is more than a person and he knows his place better than most humans! 


Bottom line ecrepeau is that a majority if not all of our county/state parks require that you keep your dog on a leash. With that being said if you are out on the trail all by yourself and your dog is right beside you, then enjoy the ride! I agree w/ SandPine, shoot for midweek. However, do be ready to be approached by either a ranger or others who don't think dogs should be allowed on trails. It's happened to me so often that I don't bring my dog to any of the local trails any longer & my dog stays glued to my wheel as well.

Also, many dogs have been taken by gators at Carter road and other local trails. All of our trails have gators some where on the grounds, so please be careful.

Welcome back to the sea level my man!
« Last Edit: November 12, 2010, 10:54:51 AM by Clay »

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2010, 10:54:29 AM »
At Alafia, dogs MUST be on a leash. Park Rules.. During the week.. dogs MUST be on a leash. I hit someones dog going down a drop one day and hurt him pretty bad. Riding at croom is fine with your dog, you won't get any complaints there. 

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2010, 11:08:07 AM »

Dogs on the trail = dumb...


Also, many dogs have been taken by gators at Carter road and other local trails. All of our trails have gators some where on the grounds, so please be careful.

Welcome back to the sea level my man!


Yeah I don't plan on let him go around the water at all. Sounds like the gators have gotten a little too comfortable with people, etc... since I last lived down there.

Sea level no kidding. It is going to be strange riding these trails. I have gotten so used to the trails here in NY that a trail with no roots and rocks every 3 feet and the "drops" you guys have it is going to be like riding on the road.

All the trails do look fun though.

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2010, 11:13:52 AM »
Unfortunately, that is definitely the case with the gators ecrepeau.

If you ever need someone to ride with let me know. I live about 30min south of Croom and can get to any of the other trails in about an hr.

Cheers!

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2010, 11:24:08 AM »
Clay , I'm trying to funny when I say this so don't get mad especially if you think you dog ,what ever his or her name is more important then Sara palin. But I don't see a problem if its well behaved. But if you human dog gets caught in my car or under my  bike tires his name will be " YELP ".
« Last Edit: November 12, 2010, 11:34:57 AM by MM »

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Re: Trail dog
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2010, 11:36:59 AM »
Clay , I'm trying to funny when I say this so don't get mad especially if you think you dog ,what ever his or her name is more important then Sara palin. But I don't see a problem if its well behaved. But if you human dog gets caught in my car or under my tires his name will be " YELP ".


Whats funny is your grammar & thanks for keeping it classy!

 

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