Curt: yes, the regular 70 oz camelbak bladder, vertical
Murf: the bladder is vertical in that model?
Curt: this is my octane xc: http://www.backcountry.com/camelbak-octane-xc-hydration-pack-2l
Murf: I got a platapuss bladder for my frame all bladder no bulky fill spouts just a soda bottle size capthat the tubecomes out of
Curt: lid lock thing on the osprey packs is a nice feature
Murf: nice
Big Hooper: i use the Viper 10
Big Hooper: osprey bladder doesnt feel like a sausage on your back
Curt: its a large pack, not for everyday use
Murf: googling
Curt: i really like the Osprey escapist, nice features, and spreads out weight across the back
Curt: my octane xc, and 14+ hold convetional vertical bladders, 70 oz in the xc, 100oz in the 14+
Murf: cool im gonna get one I think
Curt: the othe is a octane 14+, for long/multi day bike rides
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