Topic: Bike Handling: Geometery Questions

[Pariah]

 for the brief time I rode it it was a snappy little ride.  the suspension was a bit stiff for me, but it wasnt not fine tuned for me either.  It climbed very well and cornered very well (when the tires weren't flat)

[Scott]

for the brief time I rode it it was a snappy little ride.  the suspension was a bit stiff for me, but it wasnt not fine tuned for me either.  It climbed very well and cornered very well (when the tires weren't flat)

Ride it like you stole it

[Pariah]

working on price at the present time... by far the worst part the process

[Redriderpro]

http://www.coloradocyclist.com/product/display/90013/
 
My  ex brother in-law lives out there, could pick this up for you if the price is better....

[Scott]

http://www.coloradocyclist.com/product/display/90013/
 
My  ex brother in-law lives out there, could pick this up for you if the price is better....

Now your talkin Frank, the holy grail

[Redriderpro]

Eventually he will have a "Moment" of "Enlightment" or an "Epiphany" and realize that the "TRUTH" is the way to go. 
 
http://www.ellsworthbikes.com/bikes/mountain/truth-sst.2/
 
its only Money...
 
http://store.ellsworthbikes.com/items.asp?Cc=CBWEB%2DTruth&iTpStatus=0&Tp=&Bc=
 
And local shops woudl save you some over the above
 
 

[Coach]

I love discussions about frames and numbers.  Let me say from experience (since I am a bike whore!), that numbers are a small part of the equation.  As stated earlier, putting a longer fork on a bike will change the handling.  Changing from flat to riser bars will change the feel.  Flip a stem over and you will see a significant difference in handling.  There are a LOT of small changes you can make to dial in a bikes handling.  The new Anglesets are a good step in changing the handling the way you want.  If you start with a frame that has numbers in your "neighborhood", you can definitely tweak it with fork, stem, and bar changes.  When I bought my Vassago, it was a big leap of faith.  A lot of people say, "the chainstays are too long, it won't climb or handle well".  All I can say is never judge a bike by its numbers!  My Bandersnatch handles VERY well and climbs incredibly well.  My latest build is one of the most balanced bikes I have ever ridden.  I am the one who dialed it in though.  The frame was a little too steep for my liking and putting a riser bar, dialed it in perfectly.  Just look at bikes you have owned or ridden.  Some "feel" faster or slower, some you feel like you are "in" and some on.  The frame is obviously a big part of it, but the build is also a big part.  I am at the point where I don't look at the numbers too closely.  I only look for potential.