Murf: yes I have one good for frames also
Curt: the newer camelbak bladders with the baffles ride good on the back also
Curt: been packless alot lately though
Curt: but i'm going to stick with the lcamelbak lobo for everyday use, and the escapist for the long hauls
Curt: the Don, is actually really nice, very organized storage inside
Murf: dang dude you have packs for your packs
Curt: i also have this one in black, its the one i used on the croom/santos trip in Dec: http://www.pinkbike.com/news/camelbak-don-review-2009.html
Murf: lol
Murf: wanna carry half my water and tools andthe other half of my waterin the frame
Curt: i have packs like murfwerks has tires
Murf: I dont wanna be able to carry alot in it
Curt: escapist has a integrated rain cover also
Murf: looks cool
Curt: this is the 14+, i wont use it anymore since I got the escapist: http://www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/shop/product_CamelBack-Octane-14+-Pack_10035145_10208_10000001_-1_
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